Who's the Donkey: Episode 1.
Finally had the night I have been waiting for. I am so "gamble" adverse.. which really hurts me I think. It felt like I did something wrong but thinking this hand over again I think I played it right but .. you decide... you decide.. Look down and see AK diamonds. Call 15$ pre-Flop. It's 3-4 ways. So like $60 in the pot on the flop. The flop comes 56J 2 diamonds. First guy leads out for $86. Next guy cold calls. I think this is an easy call with potentially 2 overs and a nut flush draw. So I kinda think it over and reluctantly call.. I am trying to gamble more but I still kinda hate it. So total pot is like $300. Turn is a really bad card.. A 6 black. So the board is now paired. First guy pushes his last $85. Next guy cold calls. He has $100 more behind. I cold call. This is where I think my call is kind of iffy.. but I can not fold a $460 pot. I call. River is a diamond. Second guy leads out for $40 of his $100.. I jam. He calls. The final hands are AJ for first position guy. Trip 6's for second guy. Nut Flush for me. So -- Comments? Whatever you say though I raked in a $800 pot with $200 of it being mine, and ended the night up $605 after playing a few more hours. Peace out bitches!
posted by SirFWALGMan at
5:00 AM
9 Comments:
Well, you can run it through a hand calculator and know for sure. You appear to have reasonable outs to me. But, what would I know? I haven't played since Black Friday.
I think what is equally notable is that you left with the win after playing longer and preserved your win. That points to the discipline you are looking for.
8:23 AM
If there is an idiot, it is the second guy. If he'd have played it right, it would have gone - fold - fold. He gave you the pot odds. Next time buy him a drink. Hell, dinner.
8:31 AM
You played AKs like any suited ace really. I'm not sure you want to take AK into a hand with so many people because you're more likely to make a big pair with a big kicker, not the nut flush. When you play it vs. so many you are forcing yourself to make a huge hand to win. Which you did, so nice hand. Definitely got max value.
9:01 AM
proper thing is to re-pop it preflop not put in $15 too
5:20 PM
I agree with tony. Was there a reason you decided to call and not raise preflop?
4:21 AM
I like to see flops and play them.
5:30 AM
You were playing against 2 loose-aggressive players. Early seat with AJ pops it 7x, if that was a 1-2 table. Overplayed-aggressive.
Middle player calls with a speculative hand. loose-agressive
You call with the "third best hand" in poker. 2:1 pot odds. Not a bad call with the pot odds.
The post flop plays out giving you pot odds vs out. Although it is hard to really think the overs are worth a point.
You got the rest in as the probable winner. Ask yourself if you'd have folded with a river brick. I'd say you would have -- losing half a stack. If that the case, you did ok too but with sucking results. No profit but two good reads at least.
As I alluded, the rest of the night you didn't make mistakes to waste the profit. That's the real take away.
I think I'd have likely called in late position too. You had position. A good player in late position has the most options. Some will call it too passive; but, if you had already the reads on the above players, you might surmise you'd get at least one caller and maybe two. At that point, the "third best hand" can also finish that way and you put quite a bit in the pot getting there. That way you've contribute to then playing big pot preflop poker. We don't even like that in tournament play as a steady diet. It gets lethal on a money table. And we get move to rebuilding mode. Not fun.
6:41 AM
I know you're trying to play low variance poker, but I think I play this completely different:
If I'm out of position and determined to limp here with AKs, then so be it - let's go to the flop action.
You flop the nut flush draw + 2 potentially live overcards. You call $86 into $60 with what... $200 behind? I think I c/r shove there and let the cards fall where they may. I'm happy getting my money in as a 50/50 favorite, and if I'm up against a set or TPTK, so be it - I still have my flush outs or my flush + live card outs - giving me close to 50/50 - which, given the dead money in the middle, gives me even odds...
Now, on the other hand, the argument is two-fold: you have virtually no fold equity against the betting player, and given perfect information, you make less on the hand, only doubling up instead of tripling like you did (i.e. the guy with the 6's goes away).
Either way, that's the way I play it, because I'd hate an Ace or King or diamond turn to kill my action - and I don't want to have to make decisions on a bad turn card like a paired board. In the end, against ranges, I'm very likely ahead, if not even money...
9:19 AM
I agree with you in general.. In this case I think it optimized my win. heh.
12:17 PM
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