Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Indecision

Fluxer said...

You should have gone all in on the flop. Otherwise I don't know.

-- On me Being Double Sucked Out on Last Night


Agreed. I actually respect Fluxer's opinion's alot in Poker. He is a smart, tough, player. If he ever gets properly bankrolled I bet he does some damage.

Indecision is the worse thing you can have in Poker. It is far better to fold than to not know what the hell to do. The flop came ATJ. I discarded KQ for some reason but AA scared the hell out of me. So when the initial bettor raised $13, all-in, and the other guy called I was frozen by indecision. I would have felt much better about my play in the hand if I had either folded and lost $2.50. Probably the best idea, or pushed, and got sucked out on by a two outer. Either decision was better than cold calling. I have never been happy with my results when I was not certain of my course. It happens very rarely for me but I can still remember most of the incidents. So if you are that unsure of your hand just fold.

7 Comments:

Blogger L'artiste said...

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6:48 AM

 
Blogger L'artiste said...

It's never okay to fold a flopped set. The odds of someone holding a set over yours is like a zillion to one. So always push in a similar scenario, you'll make WAYYY more money than you'll lose to the unlikely overset in the long run.

6:50 AM

 
Anonymous mookie99 said...

So if you had gone all in on the flop, do you think the other guy would have folded after calling the original all in ?

7:58 AM

 
Blogger Drizztdj said...

Set over set = busto

I've only gotten away from it once, but it was VERY player dependant.

When someone raises one time in nearly three hours of a cash game, it doesn't take Johnny Chan to figure out what he had.

8:12 AM

 
Blogger Garthmeister J. said...

I think Phil Gordon mentions in the Little Green Book that set over set happens one time in a hundred or something (when you hold a set). I agree with Drizz, the only way I am laying down a flopped set like that is if I have a fantastic read on someone. I usually go "well, if this is set over set, they are going to stack me"... and push my chips into the pot. I usually win, but sometimes a donkeys sucks out, and sometimes they have a higher set... but most of the time they don't.

I have no statistics to back this up.

8:58 AM

 
Blogger cc said...

Not to be redundant, but all we can do is make the best decision (per Mr. Raymer). Shove them chips in and don't be fraidy-scared. Embrace that nervous stomach feeling. First time I jumped up to 15/30 at the Bellagio (only open table in the middle of the day) I lost to set over set, AQ vs. AK, and two pair vs. flopped straight. Overwhelmed, I swore that I must not be as good as I thought I was. That part was true, but you just go with what you have at the time then add everything up each month/year/whatever.

10:47 AM

 
Blogger SirFWALGMan said...

Ya, thats my issue with my play. I did not shove or fold. I called.

12:36 PM

 

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