Hoyazo has lost his fucking mind

Ok. Now normally I think Hoyazo is a decent player and he has a long history of cashing and his thinking is usually sound. However when you question his stupidity in a hand he really goes off the deep end in justifying his brilliance. I mean is he fucking Cinderella and if he admits he is a donkey his fat ass will turn into a pumpkin?

I mean first off ATo is a fucking retard hand and why he is raising it in the first place I have no idea. He does not mention anything such as how much the raise was, what position he was in, etc, etc..

WillWankah the alleged donkey makes a good analysis that I totally agree with. Hoy was in bad position. Hoy had a shitbox hand. Hoy raised like a moron. The blinds were small. Will had a very small call to make and the implied odds in this hand turned out to be HUGE since Hoyazo then compounded his pre-flop donkery with the ultimate in donkery and not only gets felted with second pair which apparently is "Hitting the flop hard" for him.. but thinks any of the play from the initial raise is defendable?
I mean come on Hoyazo.. when you play weak crappy hands out of position OF COURSE your going to get into trouble.. and when you play them even WORSE on the flop then forgettaboutit. You brought that hand on yourself and nobody else played poorly.

Then the hilarity ensues to no end when people try and make the point that maybe he never should have been in the hand to begin with and possibly Will did not make a bad call.

Knowing that you will go th the felt with hands like TPTK, make it +EV to call your raises with semi-junk. Now who is the donkey?
-- Blinders

An interesting comment, Blinders. Only problem is, it is hugely -EV to call preflop raises against me with JT. So I guess that makes the guy who calls the preflop raises from me with JT the donkey. To answer your question.
-- Hoyazo

See the emphasis point here: call raises against MEEEEEEEEEEE.. how could you? Totally inconceivable. Someone playing against me the all powerful Hoy!! Total bullshit answer and not correct. In addition it is HUGELY -EV to raise ATo in early position and not even including calling your entire stack off with second pair.
I mean seriously how can making $1500 on a what $90 call be -EV???!?

If you asked me what hand I would rather raise in EP JT s000ted or ATo I would answer JT s00ted every time. It has much better chance of making a strong hand on the flop.. and the hands that are likely to call are not hands that have me totally dominated. I would rather have JT vs AK than AT vs AK. Think of the hands that are likely to call an EP raise. No question about it.

Anyway.. although I respect Hoyazo and his abilities at large scale MTT games I think he is losing it.. His usual excellent analysis of tricky situations like playing quads that we all face every other hand has degenerated into anyone who beats him being a donkey. It is a sad, sad, day and I mourn the passing of our good friends poker skills.