Wednesday, May 16, 2007

Concepts in NLHE Poker

I found the comments by CzechRazor on the hand High on Himself and I played to be very interesting.

I honestly really just want to help the guy.. When the Poker books say "Be Aggressive" they do not mean to be aggressive for aggressions sakes. The idea is not to try and bully yourself into a hole that you can not get out of without sucking off Jesus. Seriously.

I find it totally incredibly ludicrous that anyone has a problem with me getting someone to commit 3/4 there chips and have a GREAT chance to double up on a 4:1 favorite hand with one card to come. You really never get odds that great in poker.

The concept I liked about Czech's comment was that thin line.. In a tourney you have a set amount of time to accumulate a large enough amount of chips to survive to the goal. So you have a couple of things you need to do. One you need to accumulate as many chips as you can. Secondly when you get a certain amount of chips you should protect them by ending the hand as quickly as possible based on the strength of your hand.

So where do you find the balance line? How do you extract maximum value from your hands while giving yourself maximum safety. Does this change based on the point in a tourney. For instance I have heard many people state they would not mind a coin-flip situation early in an MTT.. So would you be more inclined to extract more value even if you give yourself a percentage of risk? Interesting stuff and I am not sure there is one answer.

I will say I would play the hand the same way next time against the same player. My read that I was WAYYY ahead on the turn was strong. Jordon telegraphed his weakness as he often does and being someone I have played against many times I picked up on it. I think for me this early into an MTT I would rather get maximum value out of my hands so that I have a chance at a monster stack later in the game. Instead of pissing away my lead like Jordon decided to do I would have made use of those extra chips and I think it would have given me a good shot at a deep run.

I do think Jordon has some good poker skills.. but the "Bet and they fold" type mentality will work much better on weaker players and as you play stronger competition you will be destroyed. Hell even the weakies will take you out with bluffs like that when they hit monster hands. Your just asking to get stacked playing that way. Oh well. To each their own. I hope Jordon shows up tonight.. he may have to watch some ghey soap opera tonight but we will see.


Blogger JL514 said...

You do realize its jordAn right?

11:52 AM

Blogger SirFWALGMan said...

It will NEVER be Jordan.

12:15 PM

Blogger DuggleBogey said...

The "Jordon" joke would carry a lot more weight if he didn't misspell every other damn word in the post.

12:41 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There goes Duggledonkey with his grammar again. Mr. Negativity. Jeez enough already.

Great post. I'm totally amazed at how shallow most of our blogging friends view poker hands and situations. It's pointless to try and help them Waffles, you can't teach a closed mind.

You get all your chips in at 80% and you're the donkey that misplayed the hand?


8:12 PM

Blogger DuggleBogey said...

I'm totally amazed at how Miami Don and Waffles use their incredible ESP to know that when you have a pair and a big kicker you MUST be an 80% favorite in the hand.

The morons that think that the results determine if the play was correct or not make me say


7:11 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep playing at the .05/.10 games and you'll have no need to figure anything out other than....I'm not sure what.

You're clueless duggledonkey, its true. Maybe you can write code or attempt comics but your poker skills are sorely lacking.

8:56 AM

Blogger DuggleBogey said...

I assumed I'd get an insult from you based on the level I play. You're that kind of childish wonk.

I haven't represented ANYTHING about the way I play. All I submit is that your advice is poor, and I believe I've made a pretty substantial case, based on your OWN examples.

Keep telling people to slow play weak and vulnerable hands Donk. I'm sure your poker advice book will sell a million copies.

11:52 AM


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