Sir Fishy
I put this Bad Beat on today. I am not proud of it. Anyone think I should have folded the flop? I agree. Capped it pre-flop? lol. I really only had 15BB in by the turn and had to call a capped round. I think KQ and myself should have folded. However I was having a slightly down session and decided to see the turn, and the river if the turn gave me 4 to a flush. I would have won if I made the flush also. So I have a gutshot straight draw and a backdoor flush draw. Otherwise I am drawing dead. I was at least 5BB short of having pot odds for the call. Chances are if I make either of my hands I win. If the board pairs I was thinking I was beaten by a boat (which turned out to be true). It’s nice to be on the other side of a Bad Beat for a change! heh.
***** Hand History for Game 1265133202 *****
$3/$6 Hold'em - Monday, December 06, 00:00:00 EDT 2004
Table Table 12280 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: JackLoser ( $227.84 )
Seat 4: Biggy ( $126.5 )
Seat 5: potsy ( $260.5 )
Seat 7: kissy ( $160.08 )
Seat 8: smally ( $236 )
Seat 9: raw ( $42.75 )
Seat 10: SirFWALGMan ( $86 )
Seat 2: noway ( $92 )
Seat 1: ISU ( $90.5 )
Seat 6: roundy ( $278 )
potsy posts small blind [$1].
roundy posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SirFWALGMan [ Kh Th ]
kissy folds.
smally folds.
raw calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
ISU raises [$6].
noway calls [$6].
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JackLoser calls [$6].
Biggy folds.
potsy folds.
roundy folds.
raw calls [$3].
SirFWALGMan calls [$3].
Ok. Two bets to play. K high flush draw. Some potential for the K-10 to work out. Like I said I was tired, this was my last hand of the night no matter what, and so I decide to see the flop for 2 bets. Notice that JackLoser makes his first mistake here, not 3-betting his pocket pair!
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 4h, Jc ]
raw checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
ISU bets [$3].
noway calls [$3].
JackLoser calls [$3].
raw raises [$6].
SirFWALGMan calls [$6].
ISU calls [$3].
noway calls [$3].
JackLoser raises [$6].
raw raises [$6].
SirFWALGMan calls [$6].
ISU calls [$6].
noway calls [$6].
JackLoser calls [$3].
Here is where I go really crazy. I figure if I see the Q or a heart I am ok, if not I just fold and call it a night. I know it was capped. So I am being a fish for a change. Sue me. Or maybe I always play this way! Yikes!
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
raw checks.
SirFWALGMan checks.
ISU checks.
noway checks.
JackLoser bets [$6].
raw calls [$6].
SirFWALGMan raises [$12].
ISU folds.
noway calls [$12].
JackLoser calls [$6].
raw calls [$6].
This is the best situation I could EVER be in. I have the NUTS! I have these guys betting the hand up for me and I do not really have to do much. Actually raw stopped raising so I had to fire a shot here. I might have made more money just calling but I decided to take a chance while other people had draws and were willing to call my additional bet.
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
raw checks.
SirFWALGMan bets [$6].
noway calls [$6].
JackLoser calls [$6].
raw folds.
SirFWALGMan shows [ Kh, Th ] a straight, nine to king.
noway doesn't show [ Kc, Qc ] a pair of queens.
JackLoser doesn't show [ Jd, Js ] three of a kind, jacks.
SirFWALGMan wins $157 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.
No help for the losers and Sir pulls off a miracle hand. I have no idea what raw had. He folded. Possibly a lower flush draw? He could have had the Ace high flush draw too I suppose. One question I have here. Do you think there was any collusion between raw and JackLoser? I have no idea what KQ was thinking. Possibly like me he was trying to get a straight? I wish I could have seen raws cards, because he was helping JackLoser cap the pot, and then was not even willing to see the river for 1 BET? All I can think is he was on a runner-runner flush draw, but you would not raise that on the rainbow flop? Could he have had lower trips? Would you fold trips for 1 BET on the river in a $157 pot? I would not. Anyway something to think about. JackLoser was really pissed at me! I suppose I can not blame him.
JackLoser: Nice catch [fish].
SirFWALGMan: Yeah, I thought so.
SirFWALGMan: Best card I could think of!
Shame on you Sir! Shame! Shame! Shame!
2 Comments:
I don't think what you did was bad. You were getting over 8:1 on the flop for your gutshot and backdoor flush draws. That's a good call. Once it was capped, you got even better odds. Even if you just wanted to see the turn and continue only if you hit or improved your draw, you were getting odds.
JJ clearly made a terrible mistake by not 3-betting pre-flop. He's the favorite, but he does not want to see a flop 5-handed after it's been raised. Would you have folded for two more bets pre-flop?
Once there was all that money in the pot, I'm not sure that raising the flop would have protected his hand, either. That might only work if he could rely on raw to raise.
4:20 PM
Wow, your bankroll has made quite a jump! I'm kinda wondering why you left 3/6 as well..BTW IMHO that wasn't really too much of a bad beat. Granted, it was slightly loose preflop, but after that it seems you had odds to draw, especially if you made your hand (which of course you did). Congrats!
4:37 PM
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